Bishop Talbert Accused of Urging Disobedience

8/24/2012


Bishop Melvin Talbert (right) prays with a delegate during evening worship at the 2012 United Methodist General Conference in Tampa, Florida. A UMNS photo by Mike DuBose.

A UMNS Report
By Heather Hahn*

7:00 P.M. ET Aug. 24, 2012
 
More than 70 United Methodist clergy and lay people in the United States have sent an open letter to the Council of Bishops accusing retired Bishop Melvin G. Talbert of encouraging disobedience to the denomination's stance on homosexuality.
 
Specifically, the group's letter takes issue with Talbert's May 4 remarks at a United Methodist gathering outside General Conference, the denomination's top lawmaking body. The document also criticizes Talbert's June 16 sermon at the ordination service of the California-Pacific Annual (regional) Conference, in which he reiterated his earlier remarks.
 
Talbert said Aug. 24 that he stands by his statements. "General Conference made its decision in Tampa," he said. "I was there. I heard the debate, and in spite of that, I made my decision on May 4, and I stand by that."
 
The letter urges the bishops when they next meet to "publicly censure" Talbert. It also asks the executive committee of the Council of Bishops to file a formal complaint against Talbert.
 
The letter requests the bishop be charged with violating his responsibility to uphold Church law, disseminating doctrine contrary to the standards of The United Methodist Church and engaging in behavior that undermines another pastor's ministry.
 
"The derogatory rules and restrictions in the Book of Discipline are immoral and unjust and no longer deserve our loyalty and obedience," Talbert said in May at the Love Your Neighbor Tabernacle outside General Conference. "Thus the time has come for those of us who are faithful to the Gospel of Jesus Christ to do what is required of us… . The time has come to join in an act of biblical obedience."
 
Talbert called on the more than 1,100 clergy who signed pledges to officiate at same-sex unions to "stand firm."
 
The Book of Discipline, the denomination's law book, says the practice of homosexuality is "incompatible with Christian teaching." The book prohibits United Methodist churches from hosting and clergy from officiating at "ceremonies that celebrate homosexual unions."
 
The 2012 General Conference, when it met April 24-May 4 in Tampa, Fla., rejected efforts to change that language, including a proposal to say the Church was in disagreement about homosexuality.
 
"We are deeply concerned that Bishop Talbert has undercut that very discipline and order, by encouraging dissension, disunity and disobedience, and advocating anarchy and chaos in response to the actions of the 2012 General Conference, taken after focused prayer, study, and holy conferencing," the group's letter said.
 
Talbert, a veteran of the U.S. civil rights movement to eliminate Jim Crow laws, said he is not concerned with the possible negative reaction of other clergy.
 
"My only concern is doing what is right and just in the sight of God," he said. "That's simply the way I take it. I think the day has come for us to stop hiding behind an unjust law and do what is right."
 
How letter came to be
 
Organizers mailed their letter of complaint to the denomination's active and retired bishops on July 19, at the time when U.S jurisdictional conferences were gathered to elect 11 new bishops.
 
After a month with no formal response from the Council of Bishops, the group decided to make its letter public Aug. 24, said the Rev. Thomas Lambrecht, one of the organizers. He is the vice president and general manager of the unofficial evangelical caucus Good News.
 
"We were waiting for the council or any of the bishops really to step forward and say that this was not appropriate, and there has been a deafening silence from the Council of Bishops," Lambrecht said.
 
"As a result of that, some of us felt like we needed to get this out in the public arena and make it clear that the actions Bishop Talbert is advocating are contrary to United Methodist doctrine and discipline."
 
The Rev. Tom Harrison, pastor of Asbury United Methodist Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and another organizer, said he wants the Council of Bishops to ensure all clergy – including bishops – uphold their covenant to follow Church law.
 
"We just want to know: Do we or do we not have to adhere to our Book of Discipline?" he said. "If everybody gets to pick and choose based on conviction and not on the response of General Conference, then we have total chaos."
 
Harrison later added that his large congregation expects to pay more than $1 million in church apportionments this year. "If you can pick and choose what you want to do, then we might say, 'Hey, we don't want to pay apportionments. What authority does anybody have to come after us?' No, you must because that's the covenant that binds us together."
 
Many of those who signed the letter against Talbert also were organizers of the FaithfulUMC petitions, which in September 2011 urged the Council of Bishops to respond to clergy's pledges to officiate at same-sex unions.
 
In response, the council released a statement after its November 2011 meeting declaring the bishops would "uphold the Book of Discipline as established by the General Conference."
 
Reaction of other bishops
 
The letter against Talbert also noted that 14 other active and retired bishops stood beside Talbert as he made his remarks on May 4 at the Love Your Neighbor Tabernacle. (See UMNS photo by Paul Jeffrey at right.) Groups that have sought to change the denomination's stance on homosexuality set up the tabernacle.
 
"We have corresponded with all the bishops who stood with Bishop Talbert and received replies from most of them. Some did not know ahead of time what Bishop Talbert was going to say and do not support his call for disobedience," the letter said. "Others did know and do support that call. Without a public statement clarifying where those bishops stand, however, it appears to our Church that all were supportive."
 
Los Angeles Area Bishop Mary Ann Swenson, who leads the California-Pacific Conference, was among the bishops who were there. She said that at the ordination service that followed, Talbert's sermon was well received.
 
"He really is making a call for scriptural obedience and faithful witness," said Swenson, who will retire Sept.1 and become the ecumenical officer for the Council of Bishops. "We had further conversations about that at the Western Jurisdictional Conference."
 
The U.S. Western Jurisdiction, which encompasses much of the western United States as well as Alaska and Hawaii, has asked Talbert to oversee a grassroots movement that challenges bishops and other clergy, laity and local churches and ministry settings to operate as if operate as if the statement printed in the denomination's law book – Paragraph 161F – "does not exist."
 
San Francisco Area Bishop Warner H. Brown, Jr., president-elect of the Council of Bishops, was also among the bishops standing next to Talbert when he made his remarks in Tampa.
 
He had no prior knowledge of what Talbert would say, Brown wrote in a letter to leaders of Good News and the Confessing Movement, another evangelical caucus within The United Methodist Church.
 
"I will administer all disciplinary processes with integrity and fairness in the future, as I have in the past," his June 15 letter said. "I also will act consistent with my understanding of scripture and in the spirit of our Social Principles which affirm, 'That all persons are individuals of sacred worth created in the image of God.'"
 
Individual bishops are not of like mind on the topic of homosexuality.
 
However, the "Council of Bishops is committed to lead the Church as we seek to live in the unity, which is given to us in Christ," Germany's Bishop Rosemarie Wenner, Council of Bishops president, said on Aug. 24.
 
"We – the bishops of the Church – uphold the Discipline of the Church. We give pastoral care and we offer theological teaching to all the people in our connection. We connect with various groups in our Church, inviting them to talk with each other so that we are able to continue the journey together even in our struggles to live with the differences in the questions around human sexuality.
 
"And we engage in robust conversation with each other, modeling that we – even though divided on the question whether or not the Book of Discipline should be changed so that same-sex marriages should be possible where the state law allows to do so – are united in Christ, and one-minded in responding to the call of making disciples for the transformation of the world."
 
She added that the disciplinary responsibility for overseeing bishops lies within the U.S. jurisdictions and the Central Conferences in Africa, the Philippines and Europe.
 
"At the council meetings, we engage with each other in theological reflection on many challenging questions, including the unity of the Church," she said.
 
The Council of Bishops will next meet as a body the first week of November.
 
*Hahn is a multimedia news reporter for United Methodist News Service.

Comments

1. Raymond Griffith wrote on 9/6/2012 11:21:47 PM
Dr. Bill Bouknight, recently said, " Now the UMC is the only mainline Protestant denomination in America that has not compromised the Bible's standards on sexual morality! " That says it all.
2. Bill Camota wrote on 9/7/2012 4:51:08 AM
Talbert is entirely wrong in his stand for gay marriage. God has hardened his heart and he is leading the blind.
3. Donna Fado Ivery wrote on 9/7/2012 12:58:55 PM
Praise God for the witness of Bishop Talbert, who is clearly anointed by the Holy Spirit, and stands with Jesus to love abundantly beyond what the status quo expects.
4. Doug Sibley wrote on 9/7/2012 1:26:09 PM
Bishop Talbert is a true follower of Christ, not judging (Luke 6: 37-42), but welcoming all of humanity, those who seek Him, to the Table of Christ. Why do some people so quickly judge others, and put their prejudices into the The Book of Discipline? It simply boggles my mind. What is the "practice" of homosexuality? It is not a profession; it might be a skill. Why do people question God and His ability to create? I believe in a loving, caring, nurturing, healing God who helps ALL those who seek Him no matter what challenges in life individuals face.
5. BILLY CAMOTA wrote on 9/7/2012 2:20:33 PM
Jesus Christ is full of Grace and Truth. He said to the adulterer woman, "Neither do I condemn you, GO AND SIN NO MORE". God's message is "grace and truth", not just grace and not just truth. God loves everybody including homosexual, adulterer, fornicator, idolator. And He said that "if you love me, follow my commandments". The problem of Talbert and his flock is they just want the GRACE part and ignore the TRUTH part. You can't pick and choose. God is love {grace} and just {truth}. Christians obey God 100%, not 50%.
6. Mary Beintum wrote on 9/7/2012 3:16:28 PM
You must always remember that God has never made a mistake. He loves us all. Thank you, Bishop Talbert, for reminding us of that.
7. Orval Mosby wrote on 9/7/2012 3:39:48 PM
I find that the homosextual comunity is made up of those who, for the most part, are people who have been hurt in life. Their life style is their way of finding satisfaction. The real healing comes through the power Jesus Christ to make whole.
8. Jacqueline Curtis wrote on 9/7/2012 5:12:12 PM
Thank you, Bishop Talbert. God loves all people. We humans are the ones who insist on discriminating, segregating and separating as if some folks were more precious in the eyes of God than others. That is not the message Jesus brought to us. Love your neighbor.
9. Desiree Forde-Silva wrote on 9/7/2012 8:07:30 PM
Amen Sister Jacqeline. Amen.
10. Linda Patrick wrote on 9/8/2012 4:18:04 AM
I take exception to O. Mosby "...the homosexual community is made up of those who, for the most part, are people who have been hurt in life." My sister had a wonderful life UNTIL people found out she was gay. Finally, she found a wonderful same-sex partner with whom she shared a rich, full life for 27 years before she passed away. Thank you, Bishop Talbert, for having the courage to speak out for our wonderful sisters and brothers who are made in God's image just as the rest of us are. Who are we to judge? A minister once said to our congregation, "You may be surprised to see who is standing next to you in Heaven!" It just may be that same-sex couple that you shunned once upon a time.
11. Janet Langley wrote on 9/8/2012 11:50:06 PM
The Lord expects us to love all people, and that we are not to judge anyone. What could be clearer?
12. William Miller wrote on 9/10/2012 1:18:13 PM
As a former Conference Lay Minister who served as a pastor, I am saddened that the UMC endorses doctrinal bigotry. Why is this church being shrink wrapped? Where are the younger people? I left this church to become a Benedictine priest. Give up the Welch's my friends, try the real wine of love. We are all in this together- and frankly, you look ridiculous.
13. Charles F Cordes wrote on 9/10/2012 8:38:41 PM
I served with Bishop Talbert and know him as a leader with integrity and compassion who will not bow to the sledgehammer of law wielded by those who seek power over others. Neither will I nor thousands of clergy and millions of disciples who know the love of Jesus Christ.